THE Crocodile Hunter, Steve Irwin, is dead.

[heidi]

Steve Irwin, the quirky Australian naturalist who won worldwide acclaim, has died in a marine accident off Australia's northeast coast,

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20349890-5005961,00.html

[Miss Belle]

Holy cow. I thought it may have been a joke, so I double checked on the Age website...and it had the same thing :S

[heidi]

Yeah I was watching Blue Heelers and they interrupted it with a breaking news thingy..

I am very..shocked..

[esloco]

also on abc and sbs...looks like its definitekly true..:( he may not think thing through, but he was a damn decent bloke, seems like such a part of australia, bye bye stevo, ope your nex journey find you the same happiness as this one

[**BeKi**]

ahh i couldnt believe when belle yelled it at me JUST after id finished my legal sac. i walked out into the corridor and EVERYONE was talking about it, then we went down into the year level area and everyone was running about going 'DID YOU HEAR?!' and 'IT WAS A STINGRAY!!'. but yes its quite shocking, i feel so bad for his family :(

[heidi]

I wonder if they'll still play those quarantine ads with him on them still, probably not.
I still can't believe this. It's weird that I'm so shocked...what the hell.

[heidi]

Just in case you're wondering how a sting ray kills someone..

Never underestimate the penetrating ability of a stingray’s barb, even on the smallest of stingrays. The stingray’s barb is designed to penetrate virtually all sorts of dense materials, including wood and leather. And as unbelievable as it may seem, it’s been documented that large stingrays are able to drive a barb through a boat’s wooden planks or completely through a persons arm or leg.

According to Dr. Shipp, when a stingray strikes, it either removes its barb entirely, or breaks it off inside of the victim. When this occurs, doctors must probe the wound to make sure all particles have been removed, so the injury will not result in gangrene. In cases where the barb deeply penetrated, the wound must be enlarged to make sure it is properly cleaned.

Aside from the pain and serious laceration caused by the razor-sharp barb, which can sever arteries and possibly an Achilles tendon, a poison is released that can produce a drastic decrease in blood pressure, increased pulse, dizziness and possible shock.
http://www.jerrylabella.com/stingray.html

[Steph]

yeah i just heard about it on the news and stuff

i couldn't stand him

how sad :S he has kids and a wife as well.... :S

[_Jay Dee]

I knew he would die of something like this, but now that its happened, im shocked.
He seemed like a good bloke and I feel like I know him personally just by watching his shows.
I feel for his wife and kids.

[DJFerry]

Well he is a crazy guy and something was gonna happen one day and it did lol:)

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

poor guy, got stabbed straight through the lungs :( he did more dangerous things with crocoldiles, and he had to get killed doing a documentary on stringrays. poor family, feel so sorry for them, i am so suprised, out of all people STEVE IRWIN, crocodile hunter :| that is shocking :( omg i cant believe it!!!

[BeNnY_BoI]

R.I.P to the guy. He died doing what he loved.

[heidi]

He loved being speared by stingrays?

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

no doing documentrys stooge!! respect, it isnt a very funny time :|

[BeNnY_BoI]

^^^
Filming animals, being around them. Does everyone always have to have a smart ass comment?

[JUZT!N]

crikey .... R.I.P

[.:MARK:.]

Wasn't a fan of the man, but he was a good person, R.I.P to him, and my condolences to his family, that's whats bad having to leave kids and wife, depressing.

[mz_habibii]

Does everyone always have to have a smart ass comment?

yes, yes we do.

I saw it on the news just before, I'm also very shocked.

R.I.P Steve Irwin

[.:MARK:.]

^no, no you don't.

[mz_habibii]

o0o0o yes we dooooooooooooooooooooo! :)

[Steph]

poor guy, got stabbed straight through the lungs :( he did more dangerous things with crocoldiles, and he had to get killed doing a documentary on stringrays. poor family, feel so sorry for them, i am so suprised, out of all people STEVE IRWIN, crocodile hunter :| that is shocking :( omg i cant believe it!!!


oh as if you are that shocked
as if you couldn't see it coming sooner or later
he freaking dangles his children near crocodiles

[cLuB-wHOre]

r.i.p steve

[Thommo_Raver]

i hate how its being commercialised so much, the guys did he deserves peace

and i just jumped on msn now i've rreceived 3 of those "steve irwin is dead places a turtle on your nik for rememberance"
as if; no was thats a tribute, its most probably the person who done that doesnt even know steve irwin or is a fan, hes just trying to sound "sweet" for a special someone, and other people that receive the message feel obliged to pass the message on.

/rantingaboutnnothingness

[heidi]

Lol, um commercialised? No..no it hasn't been.

And jesus people, get a grip. It's not like I said I'm glad he's dead and I can't wait to piss on his grave.

Yeah it's sad and everything but hello, perspective.

[DaMiaN]

poor guy an icon of australia will always be remembered

[PumpkinPeta]

I heard about it on the train home from school a group of guys were talking about it , its really so sad . He was a great icon and from what i have heard a really good and funny guy . I hope his family are doing well . :)

[DAkOTA_x]

:cry: WHY OH WHY!
thats unbeliveable..
everyone was talkin about it in the hallway after school.. and im like
what the hell
slow down! hmm..
but his poor kids.
not cool.

[Mickey]

care factor...0

[Steph]

selfish..
death is not something that you just hear and are like "ok fair enough"
that's a human life...
just becuase it isn't someone you have feeling for or care about doesn't mean you can announce how little you care for the big loss.. which it is as he is an AUSTRALIAN ICON

and why would you go and do it here? where people are saying how disappointing and sad it is?
do you enjoy starting **** for no reason and being a disrespectful little turd?

[jason_]

Ha yeah... a friend messaged me and another left me a voicemail in the middle of my Psychology lecture today saying that he'd died and that he'd been "stabbed in the heart" ... lol i showed my friend Bek the message in the middle of class and she was just like "what the :shock:"

Very shocking but yeah.. everyone seems to be like... caring heaps, i was like "wow... well, i guess it would've happened sooner or later considering the nature of what he does" I do feel sad for his family though... and the fact that his wife doesn't know yet... dammnnn :(

[Miss_Ines]

How come his wife doesn't know about it yet?! Where is she?

[lil_party_crasher]

If you haven't heard already, Steve Irwin died today on the 4th of September, on the Barrier Reef, near Cairns As a sign of respect for the Australian cultural icon, please place a turtle ( tu ) at the start of your MSN name, and forward this message on to others





(this is a thing that has been going round....)

[Miss_Ines]

Thanks, captain obvious.

[Steph]

How come his wife doesn't know about it yet?! Where is she?
she's in some remote area or something
climbing mountains


"It is believed Mr Irwin's American-born wife Terri is trekking on Cradle Mountain in Tasmania and has yet to be told of her husband's death."

...there you go..

[turkey_poppin89]

It's a shame having to go like that, swimming with the marine animals filming a documentary, with no sign that something would go wrong. But you have to admit, you probably saw it coming....e.g. "This here is one of the most poisonous snakes in the world, and can strike a fatal blow within 0.1 of a second. Now I'm just going to pick it up by the tail and fling it around a bit...."

I'm more concerned for his family though. His wife doesn't even know yet :|, and his children are going to grow up without a father....damn...

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

just heard on the news that his wife knows now, but nothing else has been said. Atleast he has died doing something that he loved doing. He took the risk of his life by even starting to work wif such animals, and his day has come. I didnt expect it to happen this soon though. His poor family, they are going to be devastated. It is really nice what the QLD people have done, and how they want a state funeral for him. Alot of people are hurt by this, especially the public. It is obviosly a big thing in their life as like everyone is saying, he was the australian icon. He took risks, and had the courage to do what he did. Good on him :) wish his family and friends all the best.

[heidi]

Yeah...but that's the thing, it was a stingray. A STINGRAY.. Did anyone even know they could kill people? I didn't...And everyone's saying it was a freak accident.
It could've been something more predictable.

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

As soon as i heard it i thought it was a crocodile. Apparently it was a massive stingray and it just speared him and there was obviosly nothing they could do about it. Especially when it was in the lungs/heart. It was a stingray barb that got him.:( The name of the documentry was going to be " Things that can kill you in the water" How unlucky can he be!! Poor Irwin

[jason_]

I wish MU provided free laser brain correction for some of the members. That's only been posted a million times... we know!

[Tekkaholic_Andre]

I was driveing a girl to the hostpital when i got the call, everyone in the car got the msgs and calls...:( i didnt belive so i checked on Planet 3 news on my mob, and i was shocked!! First thing i thought about was the guys poor daugters :(

[Mickey]

selfish..
death is not something that you just hear and are like "ok fair enough"
that's a human life...
just becuase it isn't someone you have feeling for or care about doesn't mean you can announce how little you care for the big loss.. which it is as he is an AUSTRALIAN ICON

and why would you go and do it here? where people are saying how disappointing and sad it is?
do you enjoy starting **** for no reason and being a disrespectful little turd?


Please shut the **** up.

If I cared about every death that happened...

Sure, I acknowledge the fact the guy died, and he may have even been an inspiration to some people, he may ahve been a top guy, he may have donated to charity WHATEVER he did, I don't know him, I have never met him, AND IM PRETTY FUCKING SURE IF I DIED HE WOULD NOT GIVE A RATS ASS.

Death happens everyday. You are basically giving life a value by saying that I should care because he is a so called "Aussie Icon" as opposed to little african kids who starve to death everyday. That is just fucking ignorant. Now you will say something like I never said you shouldn't care about those african kids...But you are saying that I should care MORE for him, and you are giving me a reason to care more for him, by saying he is an "Aussie Icon".

Why would I go and say that here? Because it is a public forum. I am inclined to give my view, just as you have, and just because mine may be different to yours does not mean I can not post it here. Some fucking discussion if people can't even post their own views.

And as much as it may seem I am trying to start ****, I am giving my honest opinion, and if people like you can't hack another persons opinion, you may aswell leave this site, as that is what the majority of conversation is on (opinions on particular topics).

[Mecha]

Great character and great icon for Australia.

Respect

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

oh my, this is a forum about death, not somewhere to fight, take it comewhere else, people are showing their repect here, and opinions, we are not here to argue ok!

[Miss Belle]

I know you're saying nobody should be feeling sad about this merely because he is an "australian icon", but Cole, please don't talk about death so indifferently.

[Miss_Ines]

He probably wouldn't give a rats arse because you have not contributed to this country as much as he has.

Look at all the campaigning he has done in the US with the whole "Gday L.A" thing.

He deserves some tribute for everything he has done and saying "care factor : 0" was really not neccesary. If you didn't care you shouldn't have posted it and just kept it to yourself. And no don't give me that "THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM I CAN VOICE MY OPINION" crap because you should of known that someone will respond to your ignorant comment.

That is all.

I believe that there should be no more arguing in this thread. If you care or don't care about his death, let the people who do care pay their respects.

[Miss Belle]

did you just call me cole?

Sorry, I meant Mickey. I just get mixed up between the three of you (Dennis being the other one). But my point still remains and your insensitivity to something like this could actually be hurtful to some people.

[Mickey]

He probably wouldn't give a rats arse because you have not contributed to this country as much as he has.

Look at all the campaigning he has done in the US with the whole "Gday L.A" thing.

He deserves some tribute for everything he has done and saying "care factor : 0" was really not neccesary. If you didn't care you shouldn't have posted it and just kept it to yourself. And no don't give me that "THIS IS A PUBLIC FORUM I CAN VOICE MY OPINION" crap because you should of known that someone will respond to your ignorant comment.

That is all.

I believe that there should be no more arguing in this thread. If you care or don't care about his death, let the people who do care pay their respects.

two things and i will not post in this thread again....
1st: "He probably wouldn't give a rats arse because you have not contributed to this country as much as he has."

If i have to make a contribution to this country at age 14 for him to care then he is no better or worse than me, for he would not care if I died, the same thing I am copping **** for now.

2nd: "I believe that there should be no more arguing in this thread. If you care or don't care about his death, let the people who do care pay their respects"

Man that annoys me, how you can just argue a point and then tell me not to argue back.

[Steph]

Please shut the **** up.

If I cared about every death that happened...

Sure, I acknowledge the fact the guy died, and he may have even been an inspiration to some people, he may ahve been a top guy, he may have donated to charity WHATEVER he did, I don't know him, I have never met him, AND IM PRETTY FUCKING SURE IF I DIED HE WOULD NOT GIVE A RATS ASS.

Death happens everyday. You are basically giving life a value by saying that I should care because he is a so called "Aussie Icon" as opposed to little african kids who starve to death everyday. That is just fucking ignorant. Now you will say something like I never said you shouldn't care about those african kids...But you are saying that I should care MORE for him, and you are giving me a reason to care more for him, by saying he is an "Aussie Icon".

Why would I go and say that here? Because it is a public forum. I am inclined to give my view, just as you have, and just because mine may be different to yours does not mean I can not post it here. Some fucking discussion if people can't even post their own views.

And as much as it may seem I am trying to start ****, I am giving my honest opinion, and if people like you can't hack another persons opinion, you may aswell leave this site, as that is what the majority of conversation is on (opinions on particular topics).
The last time I checked you weren’t an Australian icon, so… yeah… I’m afraid that means that less people are going to care when your pathetic body gets to rot in the ground for all eternity…
My whole point was to point out that your post was un-needed, selfish, and ambiguous…
The difference now would be the fact that you are admitting that he was well respected with your whole ‘I acknowledge the fact the guy died, and he may have even been an inspiration to some people, he may ahve been a top guy, he may have donated to charity’
You didn’t even hint anything even slightly close to that with your ‘care factor’ bullshit.
Don’t even try and pretend like this is about the African children you moron…
And don’t twist my words either, I’d like you to point out exactly where I said you should care about his death more than you should care about anyone elses….
When a group of people are speaking about a death of someone who they obviously had respect for and all expressing emotional SADNESS towards it, doesn’t mean you come in and decide to tell them all that you don’t care, It is rude and selfish.
Don’t you dare tell me to ‘shut the **** up’ when you are the pathetic little bitch trying to cause an argument and trying to make out like you are in the right when all you were being was a bratty little turd


and ps, excuse me? 'so called' aussie icon?
look around dick head
that exact term is all over the news/internet
i said before that i couldn't stand him
that doesn't mean i don't respect him as a human being

[Miss_Ines]

two things and i will not post in this thread again....
1st: "He probably wouldn't give a rats arse because you have not contributed to this country as much as he has."

If i have to make a contribution to this country at age 14 for him to care then he is no better or worse than me, for he would not care if I died, the same thing I am copping **** for now.

2nd: "I believe that there should be no more arguing in this thread. If you care or don't care about his death, let the people who do care pay their respects"

Man that annoys me, how you can just argue a point and then tell me not to argue back.


This is how it works..

You get to argue your point.. i reply. In the end, we've both argued a point and that's where it stops.

Get it? kthx

[Tekkaholic_Andre]

I didn't know string rays could kill humans:S
i was always told they could...google it:)

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

It only killled him because it went through his heart and the stingray was literally bigger than him, so thats how they can kill people, if it is a small tiny one, i dont think they can do much harm but it was the point that it was massive with a big spear at the end of its tail

[AzN_RaVeN]

I think its fair to say we're all a little sad about his death.... he was a great Aussie icon and kept on getting bigger and bigger each day... if it weren't for his death im sure he would have reached greater heights and really was a big icon for us. Sadly missed!

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

oh i just noticed the picture in the top right hand corner of steve irwin, good job MU, showed your respect for him perfectly :) :thumb:

[hbk69]

so many turtles :|
R.I.P STEVO

i swear the thread title said iriwn before...

[ChRiS-A]

fuk im soo cut steve irwin was my idol, he was gud az!! cant belive he died!!!

[lil_bro]

You guys suck, get over yourselves with your coniving and 'witty' remarks.


He did alot for this country and was a great entertainer and conservationest
his efforts will be missed by the conservation societies of society but hopefully the messages and his ideal wont die with him.

[..samMyy..]

turtles are all over on my msn

i was shocked when i heard this, and i feel sorry for his family as they have two kids, R.I.P crocodile man

[Cole]

This is a very interesting website about Steve Irwin

http://shabachtech.livejournal.com/6750.html

[denis]

so are you guys saying you have more sympathy towards an australian icon than 1000's of starving children that suffer all their life and eventually die of aids.

[[ U N ] _ m c n z ]]

Sad to see a good man die.
R.I.P

[Emad]

Get over the Africans topic, it's about Steve Irwin, if you wanna talk about the Starving Africans, make a thread for it. Nobody said we didnt care...

[Miss aLaNa]

R.I.P Steve:(

i have never seen so many turtles on my msn list...but its for a good cause

[Cole]

I agree about how a human life should be respected BUT
I think that he should be respected as equal as the starving african people and that they've some how seemed to be forgotten everyday in society. THe moment a celebrity dies, heaps of publicity is inflicted on them, and everybody is saying how much of tragety and loss it is.
My question is, what about the starving african people and the south african people dieing from aids? (rsa has the highest aid death in the world) How come they aren't respected equally as Steve Irwin? I know it isn't possible for this to happen, but i think that they are much more of an important issue then Steve Irwin, and atleast he was able to live to 44.

I think that people care too much for celebrities, when there are way more deaths going around that should be the main focus.
Steve Irwin should be respected as a it's human life, but the way society ignores the other thousands of deaths that happen due to starvation is WRONG and unfair.


I know this is slightly off topic, but I think I needed to explain what "tease" meant and I felt that it was important for people to understand.
If you don't like my post, I don't care if you delete it, I just don't want another banning for it.

[Steph]

Get over the Africans topic, it's about Steve Irwin, if you wanna talk about the Starving Africans, make a thread for it. Nobody said we didnt care...

legend... agreed 100% :)



I think that people care too much for celebrities, when there are way more deaths going around that should be the main focus.
Steve Irwin should be respected as a it's human life, but the way society ignores the other thousands of deaths that happen due to starvation is WRONG and unfair.

no one can help that...
it's the way the world is :shrug:

moving far far ahead from the african children now......

[hawkzs]

R.I.P steve irwin ur a gr8 los to society:thumb:

[Nate]

Perhaps now we'll be known for something descent, as opposed to some moron yelling crickey all the time...?

It's a bit harsh i know, i feel for his family and sh*t, but i hardly see him as a national hero or anything. He was just annoying.

[.:MARK:.]

People do make a bigger deal out of it because he was a celebrety but truth it death is tragic to EVERYONE, people die every day, and it affects someone else in the world. but yeah.

[jason_]

My thoughts EXACTLY with the last 2 posts. Even though he was a national icon, i don't exactly see how. Previous to his death about 95% of the people i'd spoken to, if not more, thought he was annoying, that he gave Australia a bad image and did absolutely stupid things, but now that he has unfortuantely passed.. everyone seems to be jumping on the emotional bandwagon for god knows what reason.

I'm in no way saying that it isn't a loss becuase whether i like it or not he did in many ways represent Australia but i think many people are taking this too far.

Come on...turtles in the msn name? Give me a break... Say whatever you will to this post, i don't care becuase yes it's sad that he's passed away especially in such a horrible way, and i literally can't imagine what his family is going through so it's not like i don't feel/realise all these things.. but yeah enough said.

[.:MARK:.]

How about putting it this way 'his not the only one who died on this date'

Think about it.

[Steph]

I was never trying to go overboard, I hope people don't think that I am all emotional about it since i've already said i...really...didn't like him at all...

I was just pissed off at the extreme lack of respect


Yeah just wanted to...say that one last thing..
...
*runs far away*

[shaheen]

R.I.P Steve Irwin.

[stepHii*]

You dont have to know someone personally in order to show your respect for the fact that this man sacrificed the large portion of his life working for and educating the people of Australia, and in turn, people on a world scale.

His work with countless zoos and educational institutions around the world helped to promote awareness to children and adults respectivley, and his values to which he lived by were and will remain what i think a great thing for Australia.

My condolences to his family, which are now left without this great Aussie bloke by their sides.

RIP Steve Irwin_

[traaacyy]

when i first heard about it i started pissing myself because i thought my friend was just fucking around so i got on the channel seven website and it was true and then it was like all over tv :-s i feel so bad for his family.. and i still cant believe the guy died..
r.i.p

[[stefanie]]

When I first heard, I thought it was a hoax...
It's really sad...I feel for his poor family!
Was never really a fan, but I've only realised after watching all the news features just how much he did for animal protection and welfare.
He was a good guy, and he didn't deserve to die so soon.

I can't stand thinking about how horrible it would be to say goodbye to someone not knowing it will be the last time you will ever see them...

[Tekkaholic_Andre]

^^
Hey Leah, posting in color is not alowed, just tellin ya before a mod does..:)
It only killled him because it went through his heart and the stingray was literally bigger than him, so thats how they can kill people, if it is a small tiny one, i dont think they can do much harm but it was the point that it was massive with a big spear at the end of its tail

Yes and there called stingray's because they DONT sting yeh?

[Steph]

i thought they were meant to be peaceful creatures that only attack if they've been provoked...?

[RaVe-LiKe-sPaSTiC]

I didnt believe it when i heard.. i was so shocked.. 50 people on my msn have the turtle .. such a shock i so love him..

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

on sunrise this morning they said how he died. apparently he was filming a group of stingrays on a boat or something, and he decided to get in the water for a closer look, but he swam on the top of the water over the top of them not next to them and they thought they were under threat so they all swam away besides one, that turned around quickly and stabbed him. that was on sunrise this morning, i dont know if it was definite or not, but yeah

[.:MARK:.]

i thought they were meant to be peaceful creatures that only attack if they've been provoked...?
And there is a line between oh yeah it's just a human, and omg its provoking me? no... Steve in one way or another entered the stingray's home, and like most animals, they live on surviving.

[jason_]

Steve in one way or another entered the stingray's home, and like most animals, they live on surviving.

I'd love to meet an animal that doesn't live on surviving!...
:roll:
That is seriously one of the most stupid things i've ever heard.

[.:MARK:.]

^dude that's what i was trying to say to Steph because she said she thought they were peaceful, so if they live on surviving, they gotta do what the gotta do to survive.

[JUZT!N]

what about ants? lol

[jason_]

DUDE LOL... that makes no sense! Animals don't "depend" on surviving they just do it! And on top of that you said "like most animals" ... like wtf i know you obviously don't believe it but what you've said is pretty much saying animals reproduce, and when intelligent enough, decide to not survive and just kill themselves off? Do they like start becoming emo after they're popped out of their mothers vajayjay and decide to suicide and slit their wrists?
It's just a very retarded thing to say mafaka.

[Steph]

And there is a line between oh yeah it's just a human, and omg its provoking me? no... Steve in one way or another entered the stingray's home, and like most animals, they live on surviving.


What the hell?
He did it all his life...
You are a retard, of course there are ways of being around these creatures without pissing them off.
People do it all the time.

And like I said once PROVOKED not just floating around in the sting-rays freaking home.

Did you study this? Have you been studying marine biology for a long time? Can you tell me with 100% surety that there is absolutely no line between "oh yeah it's just a human, and omg its provoking me?"
No, so shut the hell up :)

[.:MARK:.]

You know what's more retarded, someone saying a Stingray is a peaceful animal, shut the **** up man i was trying to correct her.

[greekangel27]

mmm i get what you're both trying to say, but i think the actual sentence "depend on surviving" just doesnt fit ... what else would you depend on? dying?
but point taken

[.:MARK:.]

What the hell?
He did it all his life...
You are a retard, of course there are ways of being around these creatures without pissing them off.
People do it all the time.

And like I said once PROVOKED not just floating around in the sting-rays freaking home.

Did you study this? Have you been studying marine biology for a long time? Can you tell me with 100% surety that there is absolutely no line between "oh yeah it's just a human, and omg its provoking me?"
No, so shut the hell up :)

Yes he did it all his life, but everyone makes mistake, and not every stingray is the same :thumb:

And i don't need fucking study if my godbrother has been stung in the leg by one in fucking queensland, wan't to know how that happened? he was just swimming, stingray comes by, he was stung.

[hbk69]

i was watching the news montage of all the highlights of his life, and he got attacked by so many random animals. even animals that dont really attack people, like tiny lizards...

[greekangel27]

bottom line is animals are unpredictable. period. what happened, happened.

[Steph]

Yes he did it all his life, but everyone makes mistake, and not every stingray is the same :thumb:

And i don't need fucking study if my godbrother has been stung in the leg by one in fucking queensland, wan't to know how that happened? he was just swimming, stingray comes by, he was stung.

good for him i'm pretty sure there are many different types of stingrays on this planet.
you said yourself 'not every stingray is the same' which means there's a possibility that it could have been a peaceful one and provoked or a...not so peaceful one
so stop trying to make it seem like i am an idiot and you know everything
what do you mean everyone makes mistakes are you now saying that he possibly did provoke it?

[.:MARK:.]

good for him i'm pretty sure there are many different types of stingrays on this planet.
you said yourself 'not every stingray is the same'
what do you mean everyone makes mistakes are you now saying that he possibly did provoke it?

omgg! you won't stop. Firstly you said a stingray, is a peaceful animal, well you persumed so. But ok, STING... RAY?
it can actually defend itself from some of the worlds most dangerous sea creatures... what you mean good for him, that's just confusing. I mean't there are many types of stingrays as in EVERY stringray is not the same, some are more agrressive than others.. I didn't say he possibly provoked it, his mistake was he got into the water with a stingray, that's all.

[Steph]

I WAS ASKING A QUESTION AND SAYING I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE PEACEFUL BECUASE THAT IS WHAT I HAD HEARD
and if NO ONE IS GOING TO GET IN THE WATER with the STUPID STING RAYS
then HOW will we learn anything about the creatures in the freaking sea

EDIT: ok so i'm right anyway

furkey says:
stingrays arent dangerous..
rkey says:
this is only the 4th recorded death evr or something..

[.:MARK:.]

No need for caps-lock moody :) and as you said you thought they were peaceful, someone had to correct you because you clearly heard wrong. The thing is, when stingrays are properly studied, they do it more professionally than Steve Irwin did, all you need to do is observe, not swim with them, obviously the stingray didn't like that.

[heidi]

You don't actually know what you're talking about do you Mark? Just kinda..making it up as it goes a long? Saying what seems most sensible to you?

Because it totally sounds like it.

[.:MARK:.]

How would you know? I think i know alot more about it then Steph does when she persumed a fucking stingray was peaceful.

[Steph]

someone had to correct you because you clearly heard wrong. The thing is, when stingrays are properly studied,

and i guess that was your job wasn't it sweetie
to correct me?
well fantastic work with the whole correcting thing... but yeah i'm afraid there is actual scientific evidence that goes against your attempt to 'correct me' :)

so apparently you DO NOT know a lot more than i do about it

they do it more professionally than Steve Irwin did, all you need to do is observe, not swim with them, obviously the stingray didn't like that.
yeah once again i'm going to have to say that i think you are full of **** and should just be quiet

[.:MARK:.]

Wat on earth?^
well someone had to correct you by your idiotic post, I'm talking to my friend on msn who is a fisherman, his caught stingrays before and goes stingray's are bitches, and i go what do you mean, he goes they'll run away from a shadow, so i go theyre very defnding? he goes why do you think Steve Irwin is dead. How is there scientific evidence going against me correcting you, your spinning ****.

[Emad]

Just because your friends a fisherman whos caught a stingray before dosnt make him a professional... When he goes and studies it then he can come and say that Stingrays are bitches...

[.:MARK:.]

His just saying that they tend to defend themselves alot, but it all depends on the particular Stingray, it could have been a HIGHLY agressive stingray, and a human in the water may have ticked him off.

[Steph]

Wat on earth?^
well someone had to correct you by your idiotic post, I'm talking to my friend on msn who is a fisherman, his caught stingrays before and goes stingray's are bitches, and i go what do you mean, he goes they'll run away from a shadow, so i go theyre very defnding? he goes why do you think Steve Irwin is dead. How is there scientific evidence going against me correcting you, your spinning ****.


it's proven that htey are peaceful and not dangerous
it's all over the internet
research it yourself fucker
and i believe you are the one that is 'spinning ****'
have fun talking to your fisherman friend, i really don't care anymore.
you are just an annoying lump of crapola aren't you

[.:MARK:.]

You touch a stingray, its ray can automatically spring up into action, and they did say in the paper Irwin slid his hand across its back.

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

um he didnt slide his hand across its back, he somehow came in contact with it, and like you said the barb sprung up and stabbed him. The news just announced it all, from the police, they replayed the footage and found out thats what happened. He wasnt in contact with it or didnt make it aggresive, the stingray just felt threatned thats all :)

[JUZT!N]

i wanna find some footage of what happened

runs to google

theres nothing :(

[Steph]

Just because your friends a fisherman whos caught a stingray before dosnt make him a professional... When he goes and studies it then he can come and say that Stingrays are bitches...

yeah i'm going to have to agree... how does your fisherman buddy come even close to a trained professional?

um he didnt slide his hand across its back, he somehow came in contact with it, and like you said the barb sprung up and stabbed him. The news just announced it all, from the police, they replayed the footage and found out thats what happened. He wasnt in contact with it or didnt make it aggresive, the stingray just felt threatned thats all :)

oh yes i am the one 'spinning ****'?
how many more people need to tell you that you're wrong for you to shut the hell up?

[.:MARK:.]

um he didnt slide his hand across its back, he somehow came in contact with it, and like you said the barb sprung up and stabbed him. The news just announced it all, from the police, they replayed the footage and found out thats what happened. He wasnt in contact with it or didnt make it aggresive, the stingray just felt threatned thats all :)

Well there's some confirmation, as you can see, it felt threatend, so this particular stingray was a more cautious one, i did read he touched its back though :sarc: So yes it was Steve Erwins fault for getting into the water and making it feel threatened... He has been injured by many animals before, this one was just fatal. r.i.p

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

wtf, i answered mark, and told him what really happened ok, i didnt ask for you to give me ****, if you dont believe thats what happened then dont but that is what is on the news and the police made a statement and said exactly what i said so im not making up bullshit, it felt threatend, like stingrays do if something touches them, and there you go, you are stabbed ok. its as easy as that

[Steph]

wtf, i answered mark, and told him what really happened ok, i didnt ask for you to give me ****, if you dont believe thats what happened then dont but that is what is on the news and the police made a statement and said exactly what i said so im not making up bullshit, it felt threatend, like stingrays do if something touches them, and there you go, you are stabbed ok. its as easy as that



it was directed to mark...sorry..
i thought that was obvious :think:

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

hmm ok, you didnt say who it was directed to :|

[.:MARK:.]

No joke i read he touched it, whatever if it felt threatend it did what it does best, and Steve was unfortanate... My godbrother was just swimming and he copped it, these things happen, whether your a professional or not, this isn't the first time something like this has happend, besides Steve has cheated deather manyyyy times.

[jason_]

Omg one or two posts fair enough but can you all just shut the **** up? Get over it... it's a stingray, it lives in the sea, it likes cheeseburgers and sex. Now shut the **** up.

I wonder how steve irwins family is doing today :( i probably wouldn't have been able to sleep.

[greekangel27]

^^ amen to that.

[.:MARK:.]

I guess how every other person has to deal with a closed loved one passing away, what's going to get really annoying for them is the media haunting them.

[Steph]

no thanks i'd rather not shut the **** up
because i really don't appreciate dick heads who don't know what they are talking about trying to make me look essstupid, when they are the ones that are lost in a pool of bullshit and fisherman friends that count for absolutely nothing
the end

[jason_]

erghhhhhh :roll:

Anyway does anyone know when they're going to do the funeral thingo in Queensland?

[.:MARK:.]

^isn't it tomorrow?

Steph, stingrays are peaceful *pat* want to join me, im going to go have a swim with them.

[Steph]

yeah i'd love to when are we going

[.:MARK:.]

When there peaceful *cough* never.

[Steph]

ok mr.know it all whatever you say

http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Irwins-last-moments-captured-on-film/2006/09/05/1157222102373.html

yeesh....
'Dramatic footage of his last moments alive shows Steve Irwin ripping a stingray's barb out of his chest just before he lost consciousness and died.'

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

"It shows that Steve came over the top of the ray and the tail came up, and spiked him here (in the chest), and he pulled it out and the next minute he's gone." From the age , there you have what happened ok now get over all this fighting and move on and give him some respect also to his family :)

[.:MARK:.]

But you said they were peaceful, that was my point from the start, that to an extent, they're not.

[Cole]

they're peaceful in there own habitat amongst there own kind, but once a human comes across it, it will attack vicously. (as what happend to steve irwin..came to close to it and BOOM).

[.:MARK:.]

^just like many other creatures, omg now theres people on msn saying:

evry1 put a moon( S ) infront of your nick if u have any respect for Justin Timberlake who just got hit by a car a few hours ago past this 2 evryone on your list or you will get run over just like him

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

hm, did he really get hit by a car? or is this just a rumour?

[1337]

Oh man, what the **** happened to this thread?

Here is how it goes:
1. Steve Irwin goes swimming with usually docile animals.
2. One of said docile animals feels threatened and relies on fight/flight response to decide how to handle the situation.
3. It chooses fight option and stabs Steve Irwin.
4. Steve Irwin dies.

It was a freak accident, and could not be expected/anticipated. Many people go swimming with rays like these, and barely any incidents occur. In fact:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_irwin#Death

So stop fucking bickering about the stingrays, and focus on something more constructive/less argumentative.

And nobody cares about Justin Timberlake.

[stepHii*]

I heard this too Mark!

Hmm.. i have reservations about this rumour though, although i do have a girl nearly in tears over it. So, if someone can confirm it to be either true or false, it would be much appreciated lol.

[jason_]

LMAO!!! Will i really get run over just like him if i don't put a freakin moon in my msn name... you know what.. i'll put a sun in there for the sake of it.
There doesn't seem to be any results on JT getting hit by a car either... and even if it were true, why are you freakin mentioning it in here?

[.:MARK:.]

^Because of the turtle thing on msn that's all, it's either it is true, or its a rumour someone making a joke about it ALL
And yeah Steph I think i know this person your talking about, damn mong lol.

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

haha i have about 150-180 people with turtles on their nick names for steve irwin and one moon for justin timberlake, is there a message getting sent out there?

[1337]

Nothing happened to Justin Timberlake. Its all just rumours.

[DAkOTA_x]

you wish something happened to justin timberlake.

[stepHii*]

Marcus, Marcus you are too right LMAO

Oh, retarted mong sentance of the day .. how about a MONG dance, at a mongy soccer club lol!

[.:MARK:.]

^don't... just... don't lol...
anyway, it was actually taking it out of Steve Irwins chest that killed him, that's tough :( he got it out with his bare hands.

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

yeah but i think he would of died anyway, since it went through his heart. But as he pulled it out it ripped out flesh and all, so that didnt help :P poor guy :(

[[ U N ] _ m c n z ]]

^ plus he probably would have died from the venom if he left it in

[jason_]

**** i didn't know there was actual venom in a stingrays tail... you learn something new everyday. And yeah i was gonna say earlier that i would've guessed it was probably the fact that he pulled it out that killed him for a few reasons, but then i got distracted.

[Miss_Ines]

He was born in Essendon.. wow, never knew that one.

Do you think they will eventually release the footage of the incident?

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

i think on ABC or SBS they will because they always show disturbing footage, so i reckon they will but not channel 7,9 or 10 i dont think. In a way i want to see it, but i dont know if the family will want them to release it

[.:MARK:.]

He was born in Essendon.. wow, never knew that one.

Do you think they will eventually release the footage of the incident?

Yeah i read he was born in Essendon this morning, random...
As for the footage, in English were actually studying 'Censorship' at the moment, and it's actually unallowed to show such shocking footage on tv in australia, but hey i reckon it'll leak through and get on youtube and stuff.

[Thommo_Raver]

they've shown little snippets of the stingray
matter of time before they show the whole vid

[Miss Belle]

All the commercial news channels have been saying that the footage will never be released. And rightly so, I think. It really wouldn't help and seems a bit disrespectful to plaster a video of the incident all over the media.

[l0rii_da_chikkah]

the media have a feeling that it will somehow get put all over the internet, and they are scared about it, they dont want to show the public, but they reckon it getting through to the internet is the biggest problem!

[ronder]

RIP CROCODILE HUNTER. HOPE HES FAMILY IS OK:hug: